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Copa del Rey: Valencia CF vs FC Barcelona: Live Match Thread

Copa del Rey: Semi-finals 1st Leg
Kickoff: Wednesday, 1 February 2012; 21:00 CET
Estadio de Mestalla, Valencia
Referee: Jose Luis González González

Lineups:

Valencia CF (4-2-3-1): Diego Alves; Miguel Monteiro, Adil Rami, Víctor Ruiz, Jordi Alba; Éver Banega, David Albelda; Pablo Piatti, Jonas, Jérémy Mathieu; Roberto Soldado

Substitutes: Vicente Guaita, Antonio Barragán, Ángel Dealbert, Sofiane Feghouli, Tino Costa, Juan Bernat, Aritz Aduriz

FC Barcelona (4-3-3): Jose Manuel Pinto; Carles Puyol, Javier Mascherano, Gerard Pique, Eric Abidal; Sergio Busquets, Thiago Alcantara, Cesc Fabregas; Isaac Cuenca, Lionel Messi, Alexis Sanchez

Substitutes: Victor Valdes, Dani Alves, Adriano Correia, Jonathan Dos Santos, Sergi Roberto, Xavi Hernandez, Cristian Tello

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Nearly got the lineup right

Regardless of everything, this lineup is good enough to beat Valencia

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 8:28 PM CET via mobile reply actions  

Interesting

Cesc is going to play MF, this must the first time he will be effectively THE playmaker (I consider him more senior to Thiago in this role)

by hobo_barca on Feb 1, 2012 8:48 PM CET reply actions  

Crunch time

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:01 PM CET reply actions  

Game time

Let’s go!

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:03 PM CET reply actions  

Why has Pinto got Colorado on his shirt?

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:03 PM CET reply actions  

good old Barcastuff

In memory of his grandfather.

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:05 PM CET up reply actions  

Classy move

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:06 PM CET up reply actions  

i suspected something like that...

must be his maternal grandmother, assuming normal spanish last name conventions.

by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:07 PM CET up reply actions  

Really?

I didn’t notice. Maybe it has something to do with superstition, you know, like Cesc changed his shirt name to Fabregas after he joined Barca.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:05 PM CET up reply actions  

Piatti slipped in the crucial moment

He had Soldado all alone, but he couldn’t get the pass off

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:08 PM CET reply actions  

Messi fires wide

Didn’t miss by much

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:10 PM CET reply actions  

Good run by Cuenca prior to Messi's

Love to see more of that

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:11 PM CET reply actions  

Alba gets a shot off

Didn’t get much on it though and Pinto collects

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 PM CET reply actions  

Just a funny comment...

His last names are Pinto and Colorado. “Pinto” means “spotted” and “colorado” means “red.” They are both varieties of beans…

by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 PM CET reply actions  

A lot

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:13 PM CET up reply actions  

dunno

But he has played upwards of 200 games in the past three or four years. It’s a lot to keep at the same level

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:13 PM CET up reply actions  

Good defending from Puyol and Mascherano

Piatti had a chance

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:14 PM CET reply actions  

Great control by Messi

though it didn’t count because Cesc couldn’t keep it in play

by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:16 PM CET reply actions  

The pitch has to be very wet

Players are sliding all over the place

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:16 PM CET reply actions  

Valencia taking the Mourinho approach

Fouling at every opportunity, just to slow the momentum

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:19 PM CET reply actions  

Messi with the chance

but it’s blocked by Mathieu

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:19 PM CET reply actions  

He was

Should’ve been red for Pinto

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:21 PM CET up reply actions  

That was close

I think Pinto handled the ball outside of the area

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:21 PM CET reply actions  

No need for a replay.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM CET up reply actions  

Crazy Pinto

He should come with a warning for the faint-hearted

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:22 PM CET reply actions  

What an obvious straight red.

And you wonder why people think of La Liga as they do.

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by siempre_riquelme on Feb 1, 2012 9:22 PM CET reply actions  

The refereeing is awful in the La Liga

but it’s not always Barcelona that get favorable calls. It’s a shame that referees ruined so many games (especially this season).

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 PM CET up reply actions  

Valencia were lucky in the league game with the refs

Looks like it was our turn this time.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM CET reply actions  

Haha

It gets funnier to see each time!

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM CET reply actions  

Zonal Marking

Sucks

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM CET reply actions  

It wasn't a corner, either I think

Oh well… one for Valencia now, make-up call?

by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 PM CET reply actions  

Blood on Cesc's face

Mathieu with the very high challenge

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:25 PM CET reply actions  

No need for more Pinto replays

We all know the refs got it wrong.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:26 PM CET reply actions  

Cesc will return

However, he will be all bandaged up

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 PM CET reply actions  

Pique is mental

WHY OH WHY HAS EVERYONE LOST THEIR PASSING ABILITY???

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 PM CET reply actions  

Alba and Piatti have switched positions

Piatti now on the LW and the ex-Barca boy is on the RW

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 PM CET reply actions  

Valencia take the lead

Jonas

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 PM CET reply actions  

He made many

the first one being we’re not playing a 3-4-3 like we did in that game (Dani played on the wing until the second half in that game).

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 PM CET up reply actions  

Brilliant...

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:30 PM CET reply actions  

Mithieu again the setup man

Mathieu killed us at Mestalla in the league game. He was merely average the rest of the season, but looks like he woke up just in time.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 PM CET reply actions  

Reminds me of Klose

He always does nothing between World Cups…

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM CET up reply actions  

Messi shoots well wide

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 PM CET reply actions  

Messi has to do better than that

Probably will

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM CET reply actions  

Jonas did get a yellow card

for his celebration

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM CET reply actions  

What a save Alves

Alexis had the goal at his mercy

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:37 PM CET reply actions  

Gooooooaaaaaaaal!!!

Puyol!!!

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM CET reply actions  

When nothing is going your way

then score from the corner. Classic Barca tactic :)

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM CET reply actions  

CAPTAIN'S GOAL!!!!

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM CET reply actions  

Pep getting very excited about the goal

Don’t remember the last time he was so happy

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:40 PM CET reply actions  

Oh yeah

It’s an away goal :)

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:43 PM CET reply actions  

Yellow card Mascherano

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM CET reply actions  

Cuenca is having a good game

Good running, good dribbling. He needs to step up now that he’s a first team member.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM CET reply actions  

Pass that ball Messi!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2nd time I saying this!!!

Mes que un club!!!

by Andy Barca on Feb 1, 2012 9:45 PM CET reply actions  

Alexis has been quiet

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 PM CET reply actions  

oh he will get better

In this match, but as of yet, he has been out-shined by Cuenca

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:59 PM CET up reply actions  

I agree that Cuenca has looked much better than him.........

But Alexis has had two crucial chances that he should have scored.

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by Andy Barca on Feb 1, 2012 10:00 PM CET up reply actions  

exactly

Quiet/below standard would be better

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:01 PM CET up reply actions  

Half-time

decent display, decent result so far

by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 PM CET reply actions  

Halftime

Good game this

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 PM CET reply actions  

Let's face it

Pinto’s non red card is probably better for Valencia

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:50 PM CET reply actions  

Can't tell if you're kidding

Yes, Valdes is much better but is he worth an extra outfield player?

by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:51 PM CET up reply actions  

maybe

Pinto is likely to make an error with this pressure, Valdes will not, while Barca will keep possession just as well. Not sure really

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:58 PM CET up reply actions  

Poor Movement

I don’t know what it is, but there has been a major lack of off the ball movement. Normally, when someone receives the ball, he has at least two options, one attacking and the other supporting, by which he can release to, but I’m not seeing that tonight.

by Atchins on Feb 1, 2012 9:54 PM CET reply actions  

This seasons been crazy..

Constant change of formation, personal and injuries have really changed the dynamics of the team..

by FCBRojas on Feb 1, 2012 10:06 PM CET up reply actions  

Let's continue

Let’s go!

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:05 PM CET reply actions  

Yellow for Albelda

Quick card

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:06 PM CET reply actions  

I'm still wary of Puyol's side

He did get us the goal, and of course I love him, but from a tactical point of view I’m nervous of him up against both Mathieu and Jordi Alba. He’s not a natural full-back, so he doesn’t have the pace or stamina of them.

If you recall, our comeback at mestalla was actually using a 3-4-3, and without Puyol on the field. It was Dani Alves / Adriano on the right side, matching up 2 full backs vs. 2 full backs on that side.

by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 10:06 PM CET reply actions  

Messi shoots when he should pass

And passes when he should shoot…needs to find that balance again

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:09 PM CET reply actions  

Pique slipped, Soldado free

tried to get up, fell again… finally blocked by Mascherano

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Alves warming up

Hallelujah

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:10 PM CET reply actions  

Pique

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 PM CET up reply actions  

Dunno

Pique has been poor, could be him, but Masch is on a yellow..

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 PM CET up reply actions  

Messi with the shot

again he misses

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:12 PM CET reply actions  

Yellow card again

This one for Ruiz

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 PM CET reply actions  

Just realized

Ruiz is only 22 years old. It has to be said he is very good for a defender of his youth.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 PM CET reply actions  

but he was a Espanyol kid

Makes him a lot worse :P

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 PM CET up reply actions  

Technically he was ours first

but he did get his first taste of first team football with Espanyol.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:17 PM CET up reply actions  

Penalty for Barca!

Thiago wins it

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 PM CET reply actions  

Alves saves it

Unbelievable

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:16 PM CET reply actions  

Alves sucks all year round

Until either penalties or Barcelona…

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:17 PM CET reply actions  

yeah

What’s the bet Javi Varas will do similar?

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 PM CET up reply actions  

That's a bet I'd take

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:21 PM CET up reply actions  

Feghouli on for Piatti

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:19 PM CET reply actions  

Yes

They are basically the same player, but Piatti is in better form right now.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 PM CET up reply actions  

Dani Alves replaces Alexis

All I can say is wow

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:22 PM CET reply actions  

was gonna guess that earlier

But thought it would be stupid…

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:23 PM CET up reply actions  

Cuenca now on the left

Alves takes his place on the right wing

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 PM CET reply actions  

Some Messi-like dribbling from Puyol

Awesome

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 PM CET reply actions  

PUYOL!!!

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 PM CET reply actions  

Abidal with a strong shot

Abi going for the Real Madrid repeat.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:25 PM CET reply actions  

Pique with the chance

but he heads it over the bar

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:25 PM CET reply actions  

Pique needs to do better

Especially when Messi wins a header for him…

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:26 PM CET reply actions  

Albelda off, Tino Costa on

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:26 PM CET reply actions  

A bit more offensive move

Tino a deep-lying playmaker while Albelda is a destructor

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:28 PM CET up reply actions  

Alves hits the post!

Thiago’s shot is then blocked

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:33 PM CET reply actions  

Yellow card Alba

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:34 PM CET reply actions  

He did

but the card was for dissent.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 PM CET up reply actions  

Aduriz replaces Jonas

A striker for an attacking midfielder. Emery going for the win.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 PM CET reply actions  

You guys are getting away with murder.

The same handball occurs on the other side of the pitch: no call. Alba makes a reflexive move: yellow card.

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by siempre_riquelme on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 PM CET reply actions  

The card wasn't for the handball

He wasn’t going to get it if he just shut up.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:37 PM CET up reply actions  

hardly our fault

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:37 PM CET up reply actions  

Yellow card Pinto

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:40 PM CET reply actions  

Dos Santos has now entered the pitch

He took Thiago’s place

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:40 PM CET reply actions  

Tell me about it

Pep has today made some weird substitutions

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:42 PM CET up reply actions  

23 fouls

Bloody hell, yet we are the villains?

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:44 PM CET reply actions  

Yellow card Mathieu

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:47 PM CET reply actions  

Cuenca off, Tello on

Finally a sub I understand

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:47 PM CET reply actions  

Alves fires the FK wide

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:48 PM CET reply actions  

five minutes

What is the point?

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:48 PM CET reply actions  

Three minutes added

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:51 PM CET reply actions  

Messi shoots wide again

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:53 PM CET reply actions  

Fulltime

It ends 1-1

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:53 PM CET reply actions  

That'll do nicely

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:54 PM CET reply actions  

Following the game on the thread.

Sounds like we are not over our mini crises.

by meadow on Feb 1, 2012 10:54 PM CET via mobile reply actions  

We are simply poor away from home!!!

Although we bossed that second half. We created more chances overall….but we are goal shy these days!!!

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by Andy Barca on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM CET up reply actions  

Honestly

If you told me before the game that it would end at 1-1, I would take it, but with all the chances that we missed today I’m actually disappointed with this result.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM CET reply actions  

well

Least we had chances! After Villarreal, this is decent enough

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM CET up reply actions  

Great to have chances

but I’m having flashbacks of all those game where our wastefulness led to less desirable results.

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:57 PM CET up reply actions  

if this was a league game

I would be mad, but not too bothered either way here. Should have won, but got the away goal. Needs to be sorted out though

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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:59 PM CET up reply actions  

Another game we tie..

But i feel better about this one.

by FCBRojas on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM CET reply actions  

This is interesting (in a bad way)

This is Barca’s third consecutive draw

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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 11:00 PM CET reply actions  

yep, bad indeed.

but im not too worried. another draw and i will be. as we all know our level of play is so high that it must dip at times. shell shock from el clasico and a struggling midfield. chaos in the middle of the pitch absolutely kills us. it disrupts every aspect of our game. it seems as though everyone is taking a page out of the madrid clasico playbook and its working. wake up fabergas—pull it together messi—and do some damn yoga iniesta!!! ugly match. fortunate draw and we move forward.

by impossibletriangles on Feb 1, 2012 11:18 PM CET reply actions  

There are actually some positives from these games

Xavi got some well deserved rest…and will start the league game with thiago…
Hopefully Pedro will be back by then as well..
The bad news is..teams have figured out that they can foul barca all they want in the middle of the park and get away with it..only way to fix this is to get xavi and a fully fit iniesta on the pitch…those two along with busquets will move the ball around much quicker..not to mention iniesta is brilliant in the final third…cesc and thiago are not
below par messi..but i suspect that’s just cause of all the extra workload..resting him is out of the question..but i dare say hell be back with his A game once iniesta is..

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by Inder Methil on Feb 1, 2012 11:24 PM CET reply actions  

why would he need a rest?

he didn’t play their last game, OK, he was physically present, but beyond that… he did not play because he lacks certain attributes lately

by hobo_barca on Feb 1, 2012 11:48 PM CET up reply actions  

talking about Xavi of course

by hobo_barca on Feb 1, 2012 11:50 PM CET up reply actions  

thats the spirit

agree. xavi needed that rest for sure. would love to see thiago starting with xavi on the weekend.

by impossibletriangles on Feb 1, 2012 11:30 PM CET reply actions  

Alves is not a striker

he is a very good offensive defender
Pep should put the idea of him playing striker role to the REST
Neither him nor Adriano have the instinct to score
Someone disagrees? How many chances they had and how many goals they scored?
Something like 1 out of 20

by hobo_barca on Feb 1, 2012 11:56 PM CET reply actions  

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