Copa del Rey: Valencia CF vs FC Barcelona: Live Match Thread
Copa del Rey: Semi-finals 1st Leg
Kickoff: Wednesday, 1 February 2012; 21:00 CET
Estadio de Mestalla, Valencia
Referee: Jose Luis González González
Lineups:
Valencia CF (4-2-3-1): Diego Alves; Miguel Monteiro, Adil Rami, Víctor Ruiz, Jordi Alba; Éver Banega, David Albelda; Pablo Piatti, Jonas, Jérémy Mathieu; Roberto Soldado
Substitutes: Vicente Guaita, Antonio Barragán, Ángel Dealbert, Sofiane Feghouli, Tino Costa, Juan Bernat, Aritz Aduriz
FC Barcelona (4-3-3): Jose Manuel Pinto; Carles Puyol, Javier Mascherano, Gerard Pique, Eric Abidal; Sergio Busquets, Thiago Alcantara, Cesc Fabregas; Isaac Cuenca, Lionel Messi, Alexis Sanchez
Substitutes: Victor Valdes, Dani Alves, Adriano Correia, Jonathan Dos Santos, Sergi Roberto, Xavi Hernandez, Cristian Tello
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Nearly got the lineup right
Regardless of everything, this lineup is good enough to beat Valencia
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 8:28 PM CET via mobile reply actions
Interesting
Cesc is going to play MF, this must the first time he will be effectively THE playmaker (I consider him more senior to Thiago in this role)
Crunch time
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Game time
Let’s go!
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:03 PM CET reply actions
Why has Pinto got Colorado on his shirt?
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that's his second last name... other than that i dont know
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:04 PM CET up reply actions
good old Barcastuff
In memory of his grandfather.
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:05 PM CET up reply actions
Classy move
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:06 PM CET up reply actions
i suspected something like that...
must be his maternal grandmother, assuming normal spanish last name conventions.
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:07 PM CET up reply actions
Really?
I didn’t notice. Maybe it has something to do with superstition, you know, like Cesc changed his shirt name to Fabregas after he joined Barca.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:05 PM CET up reply actions
Puyol
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:03 PM CET up reply actions
Piatti slipped in the crucial moment
He had Soldado all alone, but he couldn’t get the pass off
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:08 PM CET reply actions
FK in a good spot for Barca
Messi will probably take it
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:09 PM CET reply actions
Messi fires wide
Didn’t miss by much
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:10 PM CET reply actions
Good run by Cuenca prior to Messi's
Love to see more of that
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Alba gets a shot off
Didn’t get much on it though and Pinto collects
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 PM CET reply actions
Just a funny comment...
His last names are Pinto and Colorado. “Pinto” means “spotted” and “colorado” means “red.” They are both varieties of beans…
A lot
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:13 PM CET up reply actions
dunno
But he has played upwards of 200 games in the past three or four years. It’s a lot to keep at the same level
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:13 PM CET up reply actions
Good defending from Puyol and Mascherano
Piatti had a chance
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:14 PM CET reply actions
The pitch has to be very wet
Players are sliding all over the place
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:16 PM CET reply actions
Valencia taking the Mourinho approach
Fouling at every opportunity, just to slow the momentum
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Messi with the chance
but it’s blocked by Mathieu
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:19 PM CET reply actions
He was
Should’ve been red for Pinto
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:21 PM CET up reply actions
That was close
I think Pinto handled the ball outside of the area
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:21 PM CET reply actions
From the replay... yes, he was outside
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:21 PM CET up reply actions
What is wrong with our defence?????????
We have our best players out there!!!!!!!
Mes que un club!!!
No need for a replay.
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM CET up reply actions
Crazy Pinto
He should come with a warning for the faint-hearted
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What an obvious straight red.
And you wonder why people think of La Liga as they do.
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by siempre_riquelme on Feb 1, 2012 9:22 PM CET reply actions
The refereeing is awful in the La Liga
but it’s not always Barcelona that get favorable calls. It’s a shame that referees ruined so many games (especially this season).
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 PM CET up reply actions
Valencia were lucky in the league game with the refs
Looks like it was our turn this time.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM CET reply actions
Haha
It gets funnier to see each time!
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Zonal Marking
Sucks
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i disagree
it’s the best way with short players
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 PM CET up reply actions
Blood on Cesc's face
Mathieu with the very high challenge
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:25 PM CET reply actions
No need for more Pinto replays
We all know the refs got it wrong.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:26 PM CET reply actions
Cesc will return
However, he will be all bandaged up
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 PM CET reply actions
Pique is mental
WHY OH WHY HAS EVERYONE LOST THEIR PASSING ABILITY???
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Alba and Piatti have switched positions
Piatti now on the LW and the ex-Barca boy is on the RW
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 PM CET reply actions
Valencia take the lead
Jonas
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 PM CET reply actions
It was Mathieu on the right side again
Did Pep not learn from the first game?
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:30 PM CET up reply actions
But Mathieu is faster than Puyol.
I’d prefer Dani Alves for speed.
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 PM CET up reply actions
He made many
the first one being we’re not playing a 3-4-3 like we did in that game (Dani played on the wing until the second half in that game).
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 PM CET up reply actions
Brilliant...

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Mithieu again the setup man
Mathieu killed us at Mestalla in the league game. He was merely average the rest of the season, but looks like he woke up just in time.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 PM CET reply actions
Reminds me of Klose
He always does nothing between World Cups…
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM CET up reply actions
Messi shoots well wide
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 PM CET reply actions
Messi has to do better than that
Probably will
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Jonas did get a yellow card
for his celebration
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM CET reply actions
What a save Alves
Alexis had the goal at his mercy
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:37 PM CET reply actions
Gooooooaaaaaaaal!!!
Puyol!!!
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM CET reply actions
When nothing is going your way
then score from the corner. Classic Barca tactic :)
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM CET reply actions
CAPTAIN'S GOAL!!!!

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1-1
Jonas for Valencia, Puyol for Barca
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:39 PM CET up reply actions
Pep getting very excited about the goal
Don’t remember the last time he was so happy
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:40 PM CET reply actions
Oh yeah
It’s an away goal :)
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Yellow card Mascherano
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM CET reply actions
Cuenca is having a good game
Good running, good dribbling. He needs to step up now that he’s a first team member.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM CET reply actions
Alexis has been quiet
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oh he will get better
In this match, but as of yet, he has been out-shined by Cuenca
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:59 PM CET up reply actions
I agree that Cuenca has looked much better than him.........
But Alexis has had two crucial chances that he should have scored.
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exactly
Quiet/below standard would be better
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:01 PM CET up reply actions
Halftime
Good game this
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 PM CET reply actions
Let's face it
Pinto’s non red card is probably better for Valencia
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Can't tell if you're kidding
Yes, Valdes is much better but is he worth an extra outfield player?
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 9:51 PM CET up reply actions
maybe
Pinto is likely to make an error with this pressure, Valdes will not, while Barca will keep possession just as well. Not sure really
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 9:58 PM CET up reply actions
Poor Movement
I don’t know what it is, but there has been a major lack of off the ball movement. Normally, when someone receives the ball, he has at least two options, one attacking and the other supporting, by which he can release to, but I’m not seeing that tonight.
This seasons been crazy..
Constant change of formation, personal and injuries have really changed the dynamics of the team..
Let's continue
Let’s go!
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:05 PM CET reply actions
Yellow for Albelda
Quick card
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:06 PM CET reply actions
I'm still wary of Puyol's side
He did get us the goal, and of course I love him, but from a tactical point of view I’m nervous of him up against both Mathieu and Jordi Alba. He’s not a natural full-back, so he doesn’t have the pace or stamina of them.
If you recall, our comeback at mestalla was actually using a 3-4-3, and without Puyol on the field. It was Dani Alves / Adriano on the right side, matching up 2 full backs vs. 2 full backs on that side.
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 10:06 PM CET reply actions
No goal
Alexis was just barely offside
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:08 PM CET reply actions
Messi shoots when he should pass
And passes when he should shoot…needs to find that balance again
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Pique slipped, Soldado free
tried to get up, fell again… finally blocked by Mascherano
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 10:10 PM CET reply actions
Alves warming up
Hallelujah
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Pique
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 PM CET up reply actions
Dunno
Pique has been poor, could be him, but Masch is on a yellow..
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 PM CET up reply actions
Messi with the shot
again he misses
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:12 PM CET reply actions
Yellow card again
This one for Ruiz
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 PM CET reply actions
Just realized
Ruiz is only 22 years old. It has to be said he is very good for a defender of his youth.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 PM CET reply actions
but he was a Espanyol kid
Makes him a lot worse :P
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 PM CET up reply actions
Technically he was ours first
but he did get his first taste of first team football with Espanyol.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:17 PM CET up reply actions
Penalty for Barca!
Thiago wins it
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 PM CET reply actions
Good pass to Thiago
from Cuenca, wasnt it?
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 PM CET reply actions
Alves saves it
Unbelievable
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:16 PM CET reply actions
Alves sucks all year round
Until either penalties or Barcelona…
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The Real Madrid match comes to mind
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:19 PM CET up reply actions
yeah
What’s the bet Javi Varas will do similar?
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 PM CET up reply actions
That's a bet I'd take
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:21 PM CET up reply actions
Feghouli on for Piatti
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:19 PM CET reply actions
Yes
They are basically the same player, but Piatti is in better form right now.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 PM CET up reply actions
Dani Alves replaces Alexis
All I can say is wow
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:22 PM CET reply actions
was gonna guess that earlier
But thought it would be stupid…
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:23 PM CET up reply actions
Cuenca now on the left
Alves takes his place on the right wing
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 PM CET reply actions
Some Messi-like dribbling from Puyol
Awesome
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 PM CET reply actions
Abidal with a strong shot
Abi going for the Real Madrid repeat.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:25 PM CET reply actions
Pique with the chance
but he heads it over the bar
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:25 PM CET reply actions
Pique needs to do better
Especially when Messi wins a header for him…
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Albelda off, Tino Costa on
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:26 PM CET reply actions
A bit more offensive move
Tino a deep-lying playmaker while Albelda is a destructor
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:28 PM CET up reply actions
Alves hits the post!
Thiago’s shot is then blocked
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:33 PM CET reply actions
Yellow card Alba
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:34 PM CET reply actions
He did
but the card was for dissent.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 PM CET up reply actions
Aduriz replaces Jonas
A striker for an attacking midfielder. Emery going for the win.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 PM CET reply actions
You guys are getting away with murder.
The same handball occurs on the other side of the pitch: no call. Alba makes a reflexive move: yellow card.
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by siempre_riquelme on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 PM CET reply actions
The card wasn't for the handball
He wasn’t going to get it if he just shut up.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:37 PM CET up reply actions
hardly our fault
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:37 PM CET up reply actions
Yellow card Pinto
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:40 PM CET reply actions
Dos Santos has now entered the pitch
He took Thiago’s place
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:40 PM CET reply actions
Tell me about it
Pep has today made some weird substitutions
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:42 PM CET up reply actions
Still on the bench
he could be a candidate for the last sub
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:44 PM CET up reply actions
23 fouls
Bloody hell, yet we are the villains?
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Yellow card Mathieu
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:47 PM CET reply actions
Cuenca off, Tello on
Finally a sub I understand
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:47 PM CET reply actions
Alves fires the FK wide
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:48 PM CET reply actions
five minutes
What is the point?
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Dani Alves with the free kick
rather wide of the mark
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 10:48 PM CET reply actions
Three minutes added
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:51 PM CET reply actions
Pinto clears outside the box
this time with his foot
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 10:51 PM CET reply actions
Tello light years quicker than Miguel
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:52 PM CET reply actions
Messi shoots wide again
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:53 PM CET reply actions
Fulltime
It ends 1-1
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:53 PM CET reply actions
That'll do nicely
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Sounds like we are not over our mini crises.
by meadow on Feb 1, 2012 10:54 PM CET via mobile reply actions
We are simply poor away from home!!!
Although we bossed that second half. We created more chances overall….but we are goal shy these days!!!
Mes que un club!!!
Honestly
If you told me before the game that it would end at 1-1, I would take it, but with all the chances that we missed today I’m actually disappointed with this result.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM CET reply actions
well
Least we had chances! After Villarreal, this is decent enough
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM CET up reply actions
Great to have chances
but I’m having flashbacks of all those game where our wastefulness led to less desirable results.
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:57 PM CET up reply actions
if this was a league game
I would be mad, but not too bothered either way here. Should have won, but got the away goal. Needs to be sorted out though
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by Arron Duckling on Feb 1, 2012 10:59 PM CET up reply actions
Another game we tie..
But i feel better about this one.
A rather mediocre performance
Very uneven from every player.
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM CET reply actions
Possession
Barca 58%, Valencia 42%
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM CET reply actions
Most probably...
But I was actually referring to our lower than normal possession
by Luis Mazariegos on Feb 1, 2012 11:01 PM CET up reply actions
This is interesting (in a bad way)
This is Barca’s third consecutive draw
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by Bostjan Cernensek on Feb 1, 2012 11:00 PM CET reply actions
yep, bad indeed.
but im not too worried. another draw and i will be. as we all know our level of play is so high that it must dip at times. shell shock from el clasico and a struggling midfield. chaos in the middle of the pitch absolutely kills us. it disrupts every aspect of our game. it seems as though everyone is taking a page out of the madrid clasico playbook and its working. wake up fabergas—pull it together messi—and do some damn yoga iniesta!!! ugly match. fortunate draw and we move forward.
by impossibletriangles on Feb 1, 2012 11:18 PM CET reply actions
There are actually some positives from these games
Xavi got some well deserved rest…and will start the league game with thiago…
Hopefully Pedro will be back by then as well..
The bad news is..teams have figured out that they can foul barca all they want in the middle of the park and get away with it..only way to fix this is to get xavi and a fully fit iniesta on the pitch…those two along with busquets will move the ball around much quicker..not to mention iniesta is brilliant in the final third…cesc and thiago are not
below par messi..but i suspect that’s just cause of all the extra workload..resting him is out of the question..but i dare say hell be back with his A game once iniesta is..
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why would he need a rest?
he didn’t play their last game, OK, he was physically present, but beyond that… he did not play because he lacks certain attributes lately
thats the spirit
agree. xavi needed that rest for sure. would love to see thiago starting with xavi on the weekend.
by impossibletriangles on Feb 1, 2012 11:30 PM CET reply actions
Review's up
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Alves is not a striker
he is a very good offensive defender
Pep should put the idea of him playing striker role to the REST
Neither him nor Adriano have the instinct to score
Someone disagrees? How many chances they had and how many goals they scored?
Something like 1 out of 20





















